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    Go where there's "Peak Demand" for $1m/mo - Mike Feldstein and Neville Medhora Interview

    Mike Feldstein runs Jaspr Air, and has had a career in the "Disaster Industry."

    This means you go somewhere where there's "Peak Demand" and fulfill that demand. 

    So if there's a hail storm that damages 100,000 roofs, you go to that city and start fixing roofs. 

    If there's a flood, you go to that city, hire labor, and get to work. 

    He's seen people make $1,000,000/mo, and one case of a guy making ~$70,000,000 in 4 months.

    His main company Jaspr Air was started when he was fixing fire damaged houses, and built an industrial-level air purifier for homes.

    My Notes on this conversation

    • Started in the "Disaster Business" by going where there's super-ultra-high peak demand and fulfilling that demand. Wild fire damage, hail storms, 
    • He priced his air purifier for under $1,000 and it didn't sell. Simply changing the price to $2,000 made it sell out quick. It indicated to buyers it was more valuable. 
    • "By charging higher prices you have margin to make a better product and deliver better customer service."
    • "You may as well start your pricing high, because nobody cares if you lower your price, but everyone goes nuts if you raise your price."
    • If you price too low, you can raise money and sell to lots of people, but you now have to service tons of low-paying customers and fill tons of demand. Pricing high is better. 
    • When there's volatility and chaos, if you're good at making decisions on the fly you can make a lot of money in the chaos business. You can also go broke, but also create a lot of value.
    • Disasters include things like Floods, Fires, Earthquakes, Power Outages.
    • You can throw up a simple web page and ads to get leads after a major disaster and pickup work.
    • Once got 2,000 calls in one hour. Spent $10,000 on Ruby Reception in 40 minutes to answer 600 simultaneous calls.
    • Doing just drywall work is $600...but if you do drywall to replace mold it would cost $12,000. He learned many industries can charge 20X more for doing similar work. 
    • Insurance companies come into disaster areas ready to spend billions of dollars on repairs. 
    • Canada is way less litigious than the US, so getting insurance money is faster, whereas in US the insurance companies will frequently refuse to pay unless you force them. Much harder in US to compete than Canada. \
    • Hired 55 guys in one week in a disaster zone. Hire a pressure washing company with 10+ guys, and instead of pressure washing he told them to clean the inside of homes. If they can pressure wash houses, it's likely they could do other related tasks. So he got huge labor forces quickly like this. 
    • Would hire companies from 3 or 4 hours out, and hire their entire crew, and pay a daily rate and guarantee them 2+ months of work. This helped quickly build an organized workforce with their own equipment. 
    • Internet business seems to easy compared to the war-time-like environment of the disaster industry.
    • Insurance is messed up because it's cost-plus pricing, so companies are almost 
    • You can "hit it and quit it" and make $1,000,000/mo for about 2 or 3 months.
    • Some people make $20,000 from selling courses for a year, but in this business you can make $100,000 in a month because of just insanely high demand.
    • There's big arbitrage opportunities during these times, but you have to be super quick, and it's extremely stressful. 
    • Some pest control companies made tonnnsss of money during Covid because instead of spraying pesticides they did disinfecting services (with the same equipment) for large buildings and venues. 
    • His biggest "sellers" for Jaspr Air were the dental hygienists raving about the Jasprs in their offices for cleaning the air. 
    • Most big air purifiers were ugly and loud, so Mike made one who was good looking and super quiet....this did really well. 
    • What water is to fish, air is to us.
    • Thinks of himself as a "Street Engineer"
    • Some people are really good at interior design, and have an "eye for design", but don't realize that same skill applied to something else (such as hardware) can be worth 10x more. 
    • Bought 25 different giant air purifiers to find the best qualities of each and designed his own. 
    • Trend he's noticing: People are "relaxing hard" like sauna, cold plunges, etc.
    • When growing up thought rich people had to be evil, but as he knows more rich people realizes that's not really true at all. Also notices they're not that busy, almost easier to meet up with them.

    $12,000 day during an ice storm + other Disaster Time opportunities

    Mike saw some kids in Austin, TX. making $12,000 a DAY by hauling away tree branches and debris after a major ice storm.

    Small money move vs big money move

    After a hail storm, the small money is repairing roofs since that is slow, the big money that's scaleable is tarping roofs.

    Why do some businesses outperform others during certain events or times?

     

    A drywall installer can do a job for $600, or remove mold for $12,000....it's the same thing, but when the job involves something scary like mold, it can 20X the price.

    "Mold Is Gold."

    Gary Halbert's mindset was incredible.

     

    Gary Halbert always talked about finding "the hungriest customers" and nothing else really mattered. 

    If you wanna sell a lot of hot dogs from a hot dog stand, good marketing can help a little, but being around a bunch of really hungry people is even better.

    Are you looking to make $80,000 quickly? Here's an idea.

     There's all sorts of "Peak Demand" events like when Burning Man flooded and people couldn't get out. 

    Mike talks about how we would've booked up every helicopter service in the area to just fly out Burning Man attendees. 

    How to make $1,000,000 in one week?

     Go where there's peak demand, and you can make tons of money. 

    Some kids with a pickup truck and small utility trailer were hauling away tree debris after a big freeze, and were making $12,000/day. 

    Is there a business that makes $70,000,000 in 4 months? YES.

     One guy in Ft. McMurray made $70,000,000 in 4 months. He made a website as a homebuilder. 

    Normal prices for homes are $250/sqft, but he was charging $600/sqft because demand was so high after a flood. 

    Listen to the Podcast

    Go where there's "Peak Demand" for $1m/mo - Mike Feldstein and Neville Medhora Interview

    Mike Feldstein runs Jaspr Air, and has had a career in the "Disaster Industry."

    This means you go somewhere where there's "Peak Demand" and fulfill that demand. 

    So if there's a hail storm that damages 100,000 roofs, you go to that city and start fixing roofs. 

    If there's a flood, you go to that city, hire labor, and get to work. 

    He's seen people make $1,000,000/mo, and one case of a guy making ~$70,000,000 in 4 months.

    His main company Jaspr Air was started when he was fixing fire damaged houses, and built an industrial-level air purifier for homes.

    My Notes on this conversation

    • Started in the "Disaster Business" by going where there's super-ultra-high peak demand and fulfilling that demand. Wild fire damage, hail storms, 
    • He priced his air purifier for under $1,000 and it didn't sell. Simply changing the price to $2,000 made it sell out quick. It indicated to buyers it was more valuable. 
    • "By charging higher prices you have margin to make a better product and deliver better customer service."
    • "You may as well start your pricing high, because nobody cares if you lower your price, but everyone goes nuts if you raise your price."
    • If you price too low, you can raise money and sell to lots of people, but you now have to service tons of low-paying customers and fill tons of demand. Pricing high is better. 
    • When there's volatility and chaos, if you're good at making decisions on the fly you can make a lot of money in the chaos business. You can also go broke, but also create a lot of value.
    • Disasters include things like Floods, Fires, Earthquakes, Power Outages.
    • You can throw up a simple web page and ads to get leads after a major disaster and pickup work.
    • Once got 2,000 calls in one hour. Spent $10,000 on Ruby Reception in 40 minutes to answer 600 simultaneous calls.
    • Doing just drywall work is $600...but if you do drywall to replace mold it would cost $12,000. He learned many industries can charge 20X more for doing similar work. 
    • Insurance companies come into disaster areas ready to spend billions of dollars on repairs. 
    • Canada is way less litigious than the US, so getting insurance money is faster, whereas in US the insurance companies will frequently refuse to pay unless you force them. Much harder in US to compete than Canada. \
    • Hired 55 guys in one week in a disaster zone. Hire a pressure washing company with 10+ guys, and instead of pressure washing he told them to clean the inside of homes. If they can pressure wash houses, it's likely they could do other related tasks. So he got huge labor forces quickly like this. 
    • Would hire companies from 3 or 4 hours out, and hire their entire crew, and pay a daily rate and guarantee them 2+ months of work. This helped quickly build an organized workforce with their own equipment. 
    • Internet business seems to easy compared to the war-time-like environment of the disaster industry.
    • Insurance is messed up because it's cost-plus pricing, so companies are almost 
    • You can "hit it and quit it" and make $1,000,000/mo for about 2 or 3 months.
    • Some people make $20,000 from selling courses for a year, but in this business you can make $100,000 in a month because of just insanely high demand.
    • There's big arbitrage opportunities during these times, but you have to be super quick, and it's extremely stressful. 
    • Some pest control companies made tonnnsss of money during Covid because instead of spraying pesticides they did disinfecting services (with the same equipment) for large buildings and venues. 
    • His biggest "sellers" for Jaspr Air were the dental hygienists raving about the Jasprs in their offices for cleaning the air. 
    • Most big air purifiers were ugly and loud, so Mike made one who was good looking and super quiet....this did really well. 
    • What water is to fish, air is to us.
    • Thinks of himself as a "Street Engineer"
    • Some people are really good at interior design, and have an "eye for design", but don't realize that same skill applied to something else (such as hardware) can be worth 10x more. 
    • Bought 25 different giant air purifiers to find the best qualities of each and designed his own. 
    • Trend he's noticing: People are "relaxing hard" like sauna, cold plunges, etc.
    • When growing up thought rich people had to be evil, but as he knows more rich people realizes that's not really true at all. Also notices they're not that busy, almost easier to meet up with them.

    $12,000 day during an ice storm + other Disaster Time opportunities

    Mike saw some kids in Austin, TX. making $12,000 a DAY by hauling away tree branches and debris after a major ice storm.

    Small money move vs big money move

    After a hail storm, the small money is repairing roofs since that is slow, the big money that's scaleable is tarping roofs.

    Why do some businesses outperform others during certain events or times?

     

    A drywall installer can do a job for $600, or remove mold for $12,000....it's the same thing, but when the job involves something scary like mold, it can 20X the price.

    "Mold Is Gold."

    Gary Halbert's mindset was incredible.

     

    Gary Halbert always talked about finding "the hungriest customers" and nothing else really mattered. 

    If you wanna sell a lot of hot dogs from a hot dog stand, good marketing can help a little, but being around a bunch of really hungry people is even better.

    Are you looking to make $80,000 quickly? Here's an idea.

     There's all sorts of "Peak Demand" events like when Burning Man flooded and people couldn't get out. 

    Mike talks about how we would've booked up every helicopter service in the area to just fly out Burning Man attendees. 

    How to make $1,000,000 in one week?

     Go where there's peak demand, and you can make tons of money. 

    Some kids with a pickup truck and small utility trailer were hauling away tree debris after a big freeze, and were making $12,000/day. 

    Is there a business that makes $70,000,000 in 4 months? YES.

     One guy in Ft. McMurray made $70,000,000 in 4 months. He made a website as a homebuilder. 

    Normal prices for homes are $250/sqft, but he was charging $600/sqft because demand was so high after a flood. 

    Listen to the Podcast

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    Snap a photo of your hand-written Clixlo Ad and post it below.
    (...or email it to Neville@CopywritingCourse.com if you're not a member).
     

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    Headed to a billion dollars by sending emails - Nathan Barry of ConvertKit

    Currently valued at $320,000,000 and steadily growing (see live revenue here), Nathan Barry is marching  ConvertKit to becoming a billion dollar company. 

    It started off just sending emails really well, then morphed into a full suite of tools to help creators:

    It was neat to ask Nathan directly what he's seeing about newsletters, podcasts, video creation and more....because he gets to see behind-the-scenes of what all the top creators in the world are doing. 

    Here's all the topics we discuss in the pod:

    INTRO:
    Nathan Barry is the founder and CEO of ConvertKit. I am an everyday ConvertKit user myself. 

    ConvertKit

    • When you started ConvertKit there were a plethora of email services. I’m curious what made you even think this was something you could compete with? 
    • How do you find the core usage of people. Is this just talking to people?
    • I use CK. 
    • Of all the CK use cases, what are people most using it for?
    • Newsletters? Email for business? Podcasts? YouTube? All of the above?

    Content Marketing 

    • From your vantage point what’s going on here? 
    • Best practices?

    SEO:

    • I’ve personally noticed a tectonic shift in SEO in the last 3-4 years. Is this your feeling as well? 

    Social Media:

    • Can you give me your thoughts on each of these platforms (are they growing, driver of good leads etc).
    • Facebook
    • Instagram 
    • YouTube
    • LinkedIn
    • TikTok
    • Podcasting
    • Anything else?

    AI Stuff:

    • Is ConvertKit using AI in any way…and how do you avoid adding things that are “cool demos” but don’t have much real usage. 
    • What features (if any) are people asking for? 
    • With your insights into the writing world, where do you see things going? 

    Podcasting

    • What are the ways you’re seeing people succeed with podcasts.

    Newsletters

    • You might be at one of the very forefronts of newsletters, because instead of selective bragging you see real numbers. We get so many people who want to create newsletters, or ARE creating them. It reminds me of the new blog. 
    • What do you see working on newsletters?
    • What do you see NOT working on newsletters?
    • Can you give examples of newsletter who are killing it and what they’re doing? 


    Lightning Round (1 min timed questions):

    • What is the most popular trend right now?
    • How would you start a business today?
    • What is the most popular trend you’re seeing in your industry right now?
    • Best book that’s changed your life?
    • What business would you start if you had to start again today?
    • What productivity advice has changed your life?
    • Is AI going to replace all writing?
    • How did you get better at writing? 
    • Were you always good at writing? 
    • Tell me something about rich people 99% of people don’t know.
    • What would you do if you had billions of dollars and money was no object.
       

    Here are the 3 basic laws of flywheel

     

    This is the new way to grow as a creator in 2024.

     

    This is why people prefer recording podcasts live.

     

    You always need to include something in your newsletter that catches attention and sparks curiosity.

     

    Listen to the podcast:

    Let me know if you have any questions about what we talked about here! Also I'd appreciate you sharing this interview or getting people to subscribe to the channel!
    Sincerely, 
    Neville Medhora

    Nick Huber and Neville Medhora Interview Podcast

    Nick Huber, aka @sweatystartup, discusses his entrepreneurial journey in this interview. Topics include self-storage ventures, content marketing strategies, Twitter perspectives, writing habits, and key business insights like hiring and delegation challenges.

    Business:

    • Can you name all the companies you own? 
    • How are you monetizing

    Self Storage

    • This used to be the preferred business of Indian uncles. How did you get into it?
    • Why of all the different paths self storage specifically? 

    Content Marketing

    • What forms of content marketing are you in? 
    • How do you approach it? Just send out good stuff? Have a framework?
    • What is your biggest month or season?
    • How do you get people to buy gym equipment on a random April?
    • Have you experimented with video? Results?
    • Podcast or YouTube?

    Twitter / X

    • How do you view Twitter? Social Network? Town Square? A blog? 
    • You are unique that you’re this fund manager, but a mad shit talker 😂
    • I think about your Pappy Van Winkle post like 3 times a week.
    • Is shit talking innate, or a growth strategy?
    • Is Twitter where you get all your clients?
    • Social Media: What channels are best for you?

    Writing:

    • Are you scheduling out stuff or writing as it comes?
    • Do you schedule specific “writing time” or is it throughout the day?
    • Did you ever study copywriting?

    Clips Questions:

    • What is the most popular trend you’re seeing in your industry right now?
    • Best book that’s changed your life?
    • What business would you start if you had to start again today?
    • What productivity advice has changed your life?
    • Is AI going to replace all writing?
    • How did you get better at writing? 
    • Were you always good at writing? 
    • Tell me something about rich people 99% of people don’t know.
    • What would you do if you had billions of dollars and money was no object.

    It's pointless to hire someone who expects something you know you'll never be able to give

     

    What you tolerate, you get.

     

    Making a good work environment.

     Correct these aspects in your company to create a good work environment.

    The largest fleet of private jets is....

    You probably didn’t imagine this about Walmart

    Firing someone?

     Firing is hard, but even harder is being frustrated because an employee doesn’t change.

    Making decisions is a "muscle" to exercise.

     These are the two things that happen when you encourage your employees to solve problems.

    Don't have too many monkeys on your back.

     As a boss, you should be careful not to have too many monkeys on your back.

    What type of people should you hire?

     

    Two types of delegation.

     These are the two levels of delegation that will make you wealthy.

    This is what your employees truly want.

     

    This is the most challenging business of all.

     

    Listen to the podcast:

    "Should everyone start a podcast?" A Deep Dive with Danny Miranda

    All about podcasting, interviews, and what's new in the media game. Keeping it real with guests, building those connections, and rolling with the changing podcast trends. Plus, staying present, tech like VR, and Danny's "Art of Interviewing" course.

    Some of the lessons learned from this podcast:

    • Prioritize creating a comfortable and authentic podcasting environment.
    • Build connections with guests before recording.
    • Perseverance is crucial for podcasting success.
    • Focus on purpose and joy, not just metrics.
    • Valuable relationships often stem from podcasting.
    • Podcasting can aid personal growth.
    • Try podcasting briefly to discover your affinity for it.
    • Podcasts satisfy curiosity and encourage learning.
    • Networking is crucial for expanding online presence.
    • Active listening is vital for creating meaningful content.

    Danny feels like watching content in vertical format takes his brain away.

     

    This Is Why It's Important to Always Be Present

     

    One of the coolest things about ChatGPT is...

     

    What may seem odd today could easily become the norm in 20 years.

     

    This is the essential skill every podcaster should have.

     

    This is my trick to stay silent in group conversations

     

    The S.W.I.P.E.S Email (Friday December 15th, 2023)

    Swipe📁Wisdom🧠Interesting🧐Picture🖼 • Essay📄Splurge✍
    Edition: Friday, December 14th, 2023
    A fun email for Friday. I hope you enjoy!

     

    🎤 Listen to this email here:

    Swipe:

    In our community site Laurie Bell completed this A/B split test:

    Which of these Facebook ads will do better?
    A: White Background
    B: Black/Green Background

    Take a guess before reading further! 

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    Which of these do you think would do better? A or B?

    Pick your guess. I'll wait....
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    Version A (white background) was the winner! 

    It did about 3x higher conversions:

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    See the full conversion details on Facebook Ads:

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    This test was pulled from inside our forum and performed by @LBellBell Love seeing these types of tests! The full winning ad looked like this:

    winning-ad.jpg
     

    Wisdom:

    I love this quote:

    "Choose a problem, not a product."


    It means that if you're trying to sell a product, don't think "oh this would be a cool product to sell." 

    Rather think: 

    "What's a problem people are having, and is there a way I can solve it, preferably at scale."

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    Solving an actual problem is way better than "just thinking of something cool to sell."

    Interesting:

    I went to a big house out in the burbs of Austin, TX and saw this sign on the gate 😂

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    If you were a burglar, would you break and enter if someone had this sign?? 😬

    Picture:

    I finally saw a CyberTruck up close!

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    I've seen a bunch on the road since they're being manufactured here in Austin, but this is the first up-n-close look I got: 

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    I think this was the CyberTruck Joe Rogan shot with an arrow during an Elon Musk interview as it had a replaced door. 

    Also, this thing looks WAY COOLER IN PERSON than it does on camera. 

    It's hard to explain but it just looks different IRL!
     

    Essay:

    “Copywriting” is associated with writing words on a page, but my definition has always been: 

    “Installing information into another persons head and getting them to take action.”
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    The medium could be:
    - Writing
    - Images
    - Videos
    - Software
    - Combo of all above

    The medium may vary, the concept does not.

    Splurge:

    Get a world-class email newsletter custom made for your company:

    Do you work at a mid sized company that wants a done-for-you newsletter created and sent to customers? 

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    • The emails are designed to educate, entertain, and sell.
    • They would go out every two weeks to the email list. 
    • They would be written by world-class writers. 

    If you are this person reply and let me know some details!
     

    I hope you enjoyed these Friday tid-bits!
    Sincerely, 
    Neville Medhora

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